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C&S Rebirth Errata -Book 3

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Book 3, Gamemaster's Companion

Dwarves Various questions on developing Dwarf characters
ORCS AND GOBLINS Attributes, height and build information incorrectly given in main rulebook.
TROLLS Height, build and other information incorrectly given in main rulebook.
Humanoid weapon damage Humanoid weapon damage in the Bestiary
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I have a dwarf in my campaign. The C&S3 rules for Dwarves was uninspiring, but luckily I quickly obstained the Dwarf Companion (DC). This was an enlightening experience, though it seemed to raise as many questions as it answered (bash? what bash?). I read it through and helped my player make his merc huscarl. He seemed slightly overpowered compared to the other, human, starting PCs, but was well within reason. With C&S4, many of those points of confusion resolved themselves (oh, _that_ bash). Character generation did not. Book 3's advice to use the DC as is was further unfathomable. Overall, I was very happy with the new (human) CharGen system, but when we looked to rebuild the Dwarf, we noticed a few things:

1. No horoscopes, in C&S3 this meant 2 less Masteries and 2 fewer free skill levels. Yes it's replaced by a clan skill and some cool racial skills, but the balance is close at best. Now, it means losing 2 Masteries and 6 skill levels (2 @ level 2, plus other potential perks.

2. No compansation for the Social Class abilities. While they get a few freebies, they get nothing like the free ability points, BAPs, and skill levels a human gets. Arguably, their Father's Voc lists aren't even that close.

3. The Clan table is little consolation for #1&2. a 50% chance of "get 1 extra skill level." Plus a few glitches (my player's PC was in the running clan. We whet to check the new Running skill and were a little surprised...).

Those are really the main issues. The fix may be as easy as just give the Dwarf a Horoscope in addition to their other perks, but I thought I would solicit your input first.

TOP
  1. The character gets 10 skills at level 1 from the Vocations in DC. He also gets to select 5 masteries. Use the Chargen from C&StR but substitute the Social tables etc from DC.
  2. Thats the minus points of being a Dwarf
  3. Feel free to detail a Dwarves Horoscope and we'll add it to the website.

Steve Turner
Orcs and Goblins, Gamesmasters Companion
Attributes, page 3 - 33

Orcs must have Strength no less than 14, Constitution no less than 13 and Intelligence no more than 16 Orcs may purchase Strength up to 25, and pay for that at 1 point per point until 18, 2 points for each point from 19 - 22 and 3 points each for 23 to 25.

Goblins must have Strength no more than 17, Constitution no more than 18 and Agility no less than 14. Goblin Agility is 1 point per level up to 17, 2 points per level from 18 to a maximum of 22.

Height and Build
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Height Dice
Height range (inches)
Average PC height
Build Die
Range of Build Factors
Average Build
Orc, male 2D10 + 54
56 - 74
65 =5' 5"
D10 + 1
2 - 11
6 - Avg
Orc, female 2D10 + 52
54 - 72
63 = 5' 3"
 D10
1- 10
5 - Avg
Goblin, male 2D10 + 48
50 - 68
64 = 5' 4"
 D10
1- 10
 5 - Avg
Goblin, female 2D10 + 46
48 - 66
54 = 5' 5"
 D10 - 1
0 - 9
4 - Avg
Orcs weigh 10 lbs + 8 lbs for every inch above 40
Goblins weigh 10 lbs + 7lbs for every inch above 40
Social Class,
page 3 - 34		 Costs for Social Class
Class
Cost
Slave
+5
Tribal
0
Warrior
-8
Civilised
0
Orcish Inheritance, page 3 - 35
Class
Inheritance
Slave
Small Club, 2 days food, 1 waterskin
Tribal
Social Status * 15 in pennies, 1 weapon for a Background Weapon Skill and 1 weapon for each Mastered Weapon Skill
Warrior
Social Status * 15 in pennies, 1 weapon for a Background Weapon Skill and 1 weapon for each Mastered Weapon Skill
There is a chance equal to twice the Social Status of being given use of a Tribal Pony. The Pony will be trained to be used to combat.
Civilised
As Civilised Human, multiply starting monies by 0.8, noone pays Orcs as much


Trolls, Gamesmasters Companion
Height and Build
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Height Dice
Height range (inches)
Average PC height
Build Die
Range of Build Factors
Average Build
Troll, male 3D10 + 76
78 - 106
87 = 7' 8"
D10 + 3
4 -13
9 - Heavy
Troll, female 3D10 + 80
82 - 110
91 = 8' 0"
D10 + 4
5 - 14
9 - Heavy

Trolls weigh 10 lbs + 30 lbs per inch in height over 40 inches.This is modified, as usual, by the build of the Troll.

The term "Water" Troll is used for Trolls raised in meres, swamps, lakes, lochs and fens.

  • "Mountain" Troll is used for Trolls raised in hills, mountains and areas with high glaciation
  • "Wood" Troll is used for Trolls raised in Heavily forested areas

The above is for Water Trolls

  • For Mountain trolls subtract 3 inches, maximum height = 8'6"
  • Cave trolls subtract 4 inches, maximum height = 8'0"
  • Wood Trolls subtract 2 inches
Body Points for Trolls

Remember, this is the Square root of the body mass multiplied by 3
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The weapon damage for humanoids seems atypically low. Example, Orc (pg 3-69) does "Weapon + 1" damage. Better example, Malebranche (3-73) "Weapon +4" or even Demon Warrior "Weapon +10".

Now, with a bonus of Str/2, plus a few extra points for Skill level (Attacker's Bonus, table 7.15), the average man-on-the-street will do Weapon +6, and my fighters (who I can't seem to talk out of pumping up their strength) start out doing on the order of Weapon +12, laying waste to the countryside like Demons of Fire. The Orcs don't seem to have a chance.

Do Strength and Skill Mods need to be added to the tables in the Beastiary? If so, there is no consistent indication of what these should be. Does an Average orc have a strength of 12? 15? 18? That +9 to damage can make a pretty big difference.?

TOP

I can only apologise for this confusion. More details of different creatures can be found in the Creature Bestiary which gives stat values for these creatures. If you dont have the Creatures Bestiary I would give an average orc a strength of 14 but you as a GM have complete control of this.

Steve Turner

Actually minimum Orc Strength is 14, and in the NPC orcs I designed (which didn't make it to the final version) I gave the average orc 17 Str. You can see the sample orc download here.
Colin D. Speirs

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